Greg Wilson:… whether interns or whatever. The products mentioned on this site are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Recently on the show, we were talking about hemp plastics, and today we’re going to talk about making wood out of hemp. Greg Wilson:So the closer you are the better. So it doesn’t catch on fire as easy. That’s what everybody talks about. Maybe you’re looking for a full spectrum, unrefined hemp oil, or you’re looking for pure CBD isolate with absolutely no THC. And so we have to just keep building, keep moving forward. But people don’t buy wood. That’s the guys that actually take care of it. Greg Wilson:You’ve seen a picture of a square bale of hay when you stack a bunch of Legos together? Instead of cutting down a tree that you said… It takes how long to grow before you can cut it down for wood? And you can find more information about their farm, the genetics, and how their extraction process works over at blueforestfarms.com and then head over to bffhemp.com and check out and buy their products. Our team includes years of experience in large scale Agriculture operations, as well as Specialty Crop management, paired with a deep network of subject matter experts in the Cannabis market and ancillary industry trades. But the maillard effect is like the browning of gravy. Check out that review as well.Again, huge, thanks to BFF for partnering with us. Greg Wilson:Yeah. Wholesale hemp ingredients from accredited sources for your hemp-based product needs including full spectrum distillate, non-detect THC free distillate, CBD isolate, and terpenes. It started with friends and family and members of the company.I actually build something new every Sunday out of it. Greg Wilson:And so my boss then said, “Come up with a new raw material and has to be domestically sourced.” So we came up with fast-growing Eucalyptus grandis, which grows in the south of China. And right now it’s not being done responsibly everywhere. 2 talking about this. Blue Forest Farms or BFF, as we call them in-house at Ministry of Hemp, ensures quality at every step in the CBD product creation process. I’m a bow hunter. That’s what I’m thinking in my head, sort of picture it. Hemp-Alternative does not sell or distribute any products that are in violation of the United States Controlled Substance Act (US.CSA). We’ve taken a whole bunch of agricultural equipment from the cotton industry, the tobacco industry, the bamboo industry, you name it. But then we had to come up with a machine to be able to automate that. Floors Hemp fibres could prove a resilient alternative to materials currently used for textiles, such as carpets. And you can find links to their site and information on how to get 20% off your first order in the show notes. And they set up the agricultural hemp innovation center, and they actually created an incubator for me to land here over top of some of the bigger universities-. I like that. Greg Wilson:And then you also have the population that grew up in the ’60s that are on to their forever home, and that are looking for nice things rather than the cheap vinyl or cheap tile that goes into their place. We traditionally think of recycling as the reuse of mechanical parts, although if we use more biodegradable materials, we could introduce a new cycle that would be much more environmentally friendly. Please take the time to research and educate yourself about the risks of using CBD, Hemp and Herbs before consuming. Our top priorities lie in the benefits of farming hemp to heal the earth, the development of sustainable industrial hemp solutions, and the production of high-end cannabinoid ingredients for use in alternative medicines. It is less flammable than your traditional hardwoods like your Oaks and your hickories because the density is higher. And then it feeds it back into the bio burner, which heats it back up and sends it through the circulation path again. And it feeds down a conveyor table and it gets rolled up again into a smaller bundle and chain link fence. So it’s algorithm that has to hit these numbers in order to make a uniform piece of material at the end that outperforms our target being Brazilian cherry, which is the high end benchmark of global wood. Matt Baum:Sure. At what point in the process are you like… Is the abuse on the cellular structure? cynthia@hemp-alternative.com And so our old baker resaw, now we’ve turned it into a fully automated, like 50 foot long saw, where it cuts the edge-. Why? Matt Baum:You can say. So you went from bamboo to hemp? “Hemp might just be the cost effective, environmentally sustainable alternative material that LEGO is looking for,” speculated Emily Gray Brosious in a February 2016 investigation from the Sun Times. Greg Wilson:Red Oak doesn’t work as well. The hemp comes in, then what happen? Greg Wilson:You’re not allowed to burn it in the open. Soft and comfortable to wear. Because the round bales, you only get about 12 tons on a truck. © Copyright 2019. We’ve got our office number on there. Greg Wilson:We had to design that whole thing too. And so you’ve got to have… But you’re allowed to have a soap dish and a hose bib as long as it doesn’t have a base in underneath of it. Matt Baum:Wow. Greg Wilson:We weren’t allowed to have production because we have more than 10 people in a space. So it’s even safer from like a flammability perspective too. Oh, wow. I wonder who’s lying. Matt Baum:Yeah, just turn the 200-pound table over and you’re fine. I don’t know. Or even if it’s half, if it replaces every two years what you can grow on an acre but you can do it 30 times-. As part of the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture Industrial Hemp Program, we power the exciting developments hemp has to offer. Greg Wilson:I mean, that’s what it all comes down to. Matt Baum:One six foot piece weighs 300 pounds? I bought an old beater to fix up because that’s what I do. Greg Wilson:And so, yeah, we’re trying to get the ag fraternity to burn it at homecoming to try to get rid of it. This and that.”, Greg Wilson:So now we’re making firestarter logs, so I can say, “Why don’t you buy some firestarters and then tell me?” So when people come up with a smart ass comment about, “Well, are you going to get high in case it’s on fire?” I say, “Buy some logs and you-“. Blue Forest Farms prides itself on a full seed to shelf process that is completely organic from selectively breeding their own high quality varietals growing their plants locally in their sun-kissed organic Colorado farms, monitoring the state-of-the-art extraction process and even engineering the best tasting formulas. It actually has more Eucalyptus grandis trees in China than people really. And then these rolls are unrolled on to these racks that go into the dryers that I showed you earlier. Matt Baum:[crosstalk 00:28:20] mountain maker at some point, otherwise. Below you’ll find the complete transcript of episode 60 of the Ministry of Hemp podcast, “Hemp Wood Alternatives”: Matt Baum:I’m Matt Baum, and this is the Ministry of Hemp podcast brought to you by ministryofhemp.com, America’s leading advocate for hemp and hemp education.Welcome back. I don’t know if I’m allowed to say that on air. When it’s done, is it the same? Greg Wilson:And it sun dries and it turns a woody color, right? My business partner when I got married, my wife and I… In China, if you get married without real estate already own, it’s called a naked wedding. Matt Baum:I want to thank Gregory again for coming on the show. Matt Baum:I was just overthinking it. And at the end of the day, people are trying to provide for theirs, whatever that is. The kenaf plant may be little known to many people in Western countries, but has been around for thousands of years in ancient cultures of the world. Plantation, when someone was responsible enough, first time they cut it down, they planted something else there, and then you can get it in the cycle. But then you’re not telling the truth when you’re saying, “Hey, eco-friendly building material. I’m guessing that’s on purpose because you guys are math nerds. So then we had to go and get a frickin hundred thousand dollars saw. Farmers who were quick to get into the industrial hemp game learned the crop was difficult to manage. And so usually you have that cycle where the fast-growing ones get up first, and then your slower growing ones come up, but they eventually overtake your poplars and your pines. Matt Baum:But if a tornado hits and you climb under that thing, you’re fine. Our prime customer, people who like what we do are typically in your 20s, 30s, 40s; they typically are a homeowner, very often they’re associated with urban area. It was corn this year, it was hemp last year. We’re stuck with the plan of continuing to build out and automate the facility while we let the whole market… What we can’t control will work its way out. Go to hempwood.com and, well, you can see all the stuff that’s on there. Matt Baum:And you’re like [inaudible 00:14:55]. And so we put these up with hand sanitizers everywhere and getting employees at the time is hard. Okay. And so, the strand woven Eucalyptus then were me and Jimmy Song, and that’s how we met Dario. Maybe they’re not living in the urban area or maybe they work into it, and so they’re around… What I say is, someone who walks to work choking on tailpipe fumes usually cares a little bit more about the environment than somebody like myself. That’s just the way it is. But I can say that that’s where people are already accepting. And so I can speak intelligently about how to make it. I mean, it’s got to be a nightmare. Greg Wilson:No, because plywood, you encapsulate or you roll it on top of the wood veneer. Matt Baum:You’ve kind of just answered my question with like, “Why are you the only one?” Well, because you have to invent this stuff. And so I ended up in Poland and the Ukraine and Tasmania-. And that’s how you see an old growth forest come about. Hemp-Alternative is currently working with partners in the following industries: Crafted for the hardworking individual who works tirelessly at their task, assumes extra duties, and deserves some dependable relief. Greg Wilson:Oh yeah, there’s patents and trademarks and mayhem all over it. So red Oak costs half the price, it’s not as great for furniture. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. So you circulate dehumidified warm air, and then it causes it to dry out in about two weeks. So we have a uniform amount, which is the algorithm to… You’ve got 14 steps. Then we have to take it and demold it. On top of challenges with finding quality seed, high labor costs, pest management, and complying with the DEA’s 0.3% THC cap, they also had to contend with a weak infrastructure. Greg Wilson:This area doesn’t get huge yields for crops. Hemp protein powder is the best alternative for whey protein powder because it’s just as easy to digest and contains all nine essential amino acids. Like it’s not blown away. Every step of the process to open our shop has been helped along by family, friends, even friends of friends. So it hits the highest temperature requirement first and then drops. Send us your hemp questions and you might hear them answered on one of our Hemp Q&A episodes. Greg Wilson:It’s on the ballot in all types of states. They’re looking for something that’s comfortable and that’s eco-friendly, and that makes them feel good. Greg Wilson:And we just started traveling again. The link does not constitute an endorsement of these organizations by Hemp-Alternative and none should be inferred. [inaudible 00:25:23] all together, literally. It ends up getting close to 20% of your cost of raw material. If it’s too early, it’s green. Matt Baum:So you’re using your own hot air to dry… from a different machine to dry out the hemp as well. And then a lot of times when you’re getting into your tropical hardwoods or old growth forest, you’re talking 100 or 200 year old stuff. Are you using scrap? Or is hemp wood been around for a while? That’s our price point that we’re trying to get to. Matt Baum:So four months versus 60 years, more or less? I’m just trying to put it together and get the right people to talk about it. Matt Baum:So now you’ve baked it. Matt Baum:Right on. Matt Baum:Yeah, that makes sense. So then you have to open this out. If you want to get the eco-friendly element where it doesn’t have VOCs being emitted all through your house, everything, you got to use the eco-friendly [inaudible 00:10:12]. Plus Kentucky is not an expensive place to live. Hemp Wood Alternatives: Sustainable Building Materials With HempWood, CBD Honey Review: Delicious Relief With Populum…, Canopy Growth Sues GW Pharma Over CO2 Extraction Patent, Hemp Plastic Packaging: The Promise Of Hemp Plastic…, Canadian Hemp & Cutting Edge CBD Research, With…, Best CBD For Sleep: Better Sleep Through CBD &…. Greg Wilson:And then a round bale is a round bale around-. So then we set up a [inaudible 00:04:48] called strand woven eucalyptus, and it’s still… Every Lowe’s in the United States still buy that stuff. Are they making it funnier? Matt Baum:Okay. Visit the Ministry of Hemp on Patreon and become an Insider now! And-. These guys are doing it right. So yeah, COVID threw everything [inaudible 00:46:57], and we’re still turned upside down. So that was three coffee tables that are like 70 pounds. Greg Wilson:Why would you want to skirt 90% of the industry expertise? Greg Wilson:Everything comes from within 100 miles of the plant. Greg Wilson:So then the wood is cut, and then we put into our balancing rooms, which once again, draw the heat from our bio burner to keep them at a certain temperature, and a dehumidifier in there. And so then these bales come in, we had to come up with a concept of how to take it apart. And so if someone’s doing hardwood trade out of Africa, they’re probably not going into it saying, “Hey, I want to do this the wrong way to become overly wealthy.” They’re probably saying, “My customer gave me this order and it has to fit their budget. Matt Baum:Let’s take a quick break so we can talk about our partner this week, Blue Forest Farms. All Rights Reserved. Every place is a little different. And you can find that article on ministryofhemp.com, along with a new review of Healist Naturals body relief lotions, really nice for everyday aches and pains. Well, it’s more susceptible to moisture than white Oak, so that’s why furniture is made out of it. Whether you’re looking for a full spectrum unrefined hemp oil, pure CBD isolate with absolutely no THC, or even an advanced sleep formula that combines CBD with a concentrated amount of CBN, BFF has six oil formulas to fit the unique needs of their customers. Greg Wilson:A lot of my news feed turned into mask salesmen and gloves salesmen during COVID. We weren’t allowed to manufacture. Matt Baum:You’re replacing it with hemp and the hemp that you’re growing, that you guys are bringing in, how long is that growing? So it turned from just getting a floor, which he thought it was funny, and instead just send me a couple hundred feet of flooring. Greg Wilson:Once it gets up there, then the canopy goes out. Matt Baum:That’s pretty much every industry, unfortunately. Greg Wilson:Yes, it is less flammable than your traditional woods, especially your softwoods. Think about stacking a bunch of circles together. Matt Baum:That seems like two steps back to me if you’re going for something a little more ecologically friendly, right? Because it’s not the same as your traditional woods. Veurre® is a blend of organic, allergen-free ingredients including hemp seeds, coconut oil, olive oil, cacao butter, rosemary extract and filtered water. Of course, you can find all the links to HempWood and HempWood’s Instagram and their Twitter feed and everything they’re up to in the show notes for this episode. And I’ve got to say, I’ve been sleeping very well, which is great because I just ran out of my other one.Blue Forest Farms has a CBD oil that is perfect for any of your needs. Providing resources to farmers and agricultural professionals in the form of hemp seed, seedlings, grow contracts and partnership programs to include large scale hemp fiber cultivation management and harvest sales. Matt Baum:So, how do you apply this algorithm going from things like bamboo, to Eucalyptus, to scrap wood? So-. So in the meantime, check out our Delta-8-THC FAQ. Greg Wilson:Nope. We had an amazing talk and it went on for much longer than this. It was a pole. Soy milk has been used for millennia in China and has already an established presence in the West, but the hemp alternative is relatively new. Greg Wilson:Shoot, half of the employees here come from there-. Oh my god. And then it got into a whole bunch of science and math and stuff like that. The only thing I know to do is just trust our team to keep working. Greg Wilson:But how do you get that out of the field by the thousands of tons? Now, there is no cherry wood about it or anything like that. Greg Wilson:My name is Greg Wilson. Matt Baum:Right. Matt Baum:Sure, sure. Growing hemp in the beautiful state of Pennsylvania to produce high-end CBD and hemp fiber products. So the oven gets hit first, and then it can recirculate that same fluid to go to the drying, which uses a lower temperature. Every bottle of The Original Alternative Pet Hemp Oil is full of essential fatty acids which have a myriad of benefits including boosting the immune system; reducing inflammation; regulating the metabolic system and stimulating growth of skin and hair to maintain a tip-top coat. Greg Wilson:It creates a couple of thousand dollars a month worth of energy. Greg Wilson:(crosstalk 00:38:31) another type of sawmill. And my conversation today with Gregory is all about hemp wood, how it works, how it is creating jobs for people right here in America and its future in American carpentry. Ah, it drives me insane. Greg Wilson:Because they were deemed to be essential everywhere, where hotels and restaurants all shut down. Greg Wilson:Dario came up with the concept of unrolling a bale of hemp because it has to get picked up. Greg Wilson:… in the same 60-year. And once that canopy goes up, then you typically have your more traditional trees, at least in our area that are able to support more life. And actually, most of it comes from within 60. Matt Baum:When it comes to making wood, how many acres of forest are we cutting down to… I don’t even know the terms to use here, to make X amount of wood versus acres of hemp to make X amount of wood? Nobody has tools to just buy [crosstalk 00:51:31]. But we don’t have a septic in order to capture all greywater that comes out. Matt Baum:Yeah. Greg Wilson:Trademark the word HempWood, trademark the logo. So take me through the process. Greg Wilson:For Oak, usually 60 to 80 years is standard for Oak. When you go to a box shop and you get your flooring at Lowe’s or Home Depot, and they’re like, “Oh, hey, solid Oak flooring,” is typically red Oak. And he showed me what they’ve got going on. We are super pumped to be partnering with them again, this week. And then when someone’s laying this piece of floor, it performs the same as a engineered Oak, which is the majority of your Oak flooring industry. Greg Wilson joined the Ministry of Hemp podcast to introduce us to hempwood, a hemp-based wood alternative made from compressed hemp fibers. I got a big saw, send it my way.” And then they said, “Yeah, it’s a losing money operation [crosstalk 00:31:18] that stuff.”. Are you using local stuff? So the key is to get it at a golden brown point before it molds, because if it molds, it turns black. And so you it’s what we call ditch filler. I mean, you have to crane this thing in through the ceiling. Use the code “Ministry” at checkout for 20% off your purchase at bffhemp.com and help support a great CBD brand that supports the Ministry of Hemp. Do they think you’re some kind of crazy hippie? So we have a jackhammer and an air gun. So on a hum bug one off day I wandered into The Hemp Alternative. Who is a good CBD company?” Blue Forest Farms is fantastic. But then converting to actual sales on large scale build out, everyone wants to kind of see how it works and what it does and what’s happening. Matt Baum:Yeah, you’re preaching to the choir. Greg Wilson:… figuring out various ways… Yeah. Matt Baum:Right. That’s all coming up real soon here. But I built that place out with smart oak. Spun from the Palmetto Harmony hemp varietal. I wouldn’t assume so because it’s so dense. Greg Wilson:From a couple of thousand dollars worth of dumping fees we would had… In reality, we were just throwing it out in the field. Now here’s the next one. Matt Baum:Right. Matt Baum:Gregory spoke to me from his plant in Murray, Kentucky, he’s out there in the middle of nowhere. It can’t be vinyl that looks like wood. Like you guys are building this to do this. So he’s my engineering mentor. So one of them pushes it while the other one pulls it and it breaks open the cell structure of it. Greg Wilson:No, it was not the Chinese government deemed the bamboo patents to be a monopoly in 2009, 2010. And so we haven’t quite mastered how to talk to, or work with cannabis companies because it seems like a significant portion of that market segment are consultants and resellers that don’t actually have skin in the game or break and motor. Greg Wilson:Protein to carbohydrates .So we’re stealing the proteins from the soy, baking it in an oven, and then it turns brown. Greg Wilson:The only way that we can get it out there and let people know is through stuff like this. You can’t use formaldehyde. This beautiful plant is considered by some to be an alternative to hemp because of the similarities between the two plants. Hemp fuel is a form of cellulosic ethanol, meaning that the biofuel is made from the fibrous stalks of the hemp. Cannabidiol (CBD) is a naturally occurring constituent of the industrial hemp plant. So higher density causes lower flammability, as well as being a composite because it has a glue based out of that soy. It’s pretty amazing. And so all the corners that you can cut, not making it here in the United States, or using dirty glues or chemicals or whatever coatings and stuff on it, make it cheaper, and make it a heck of a lot more commercially viable. Greg Wilson:And my business partner sent me over a couple of pallets of wood from Tasmania that we had made down there. 1 review of The hemp alternative "So in all fairness I am not familiar with CBD. Matt Baum:It sounds like you built this around this monolithic monster machine basically. She also co-leads the Research, Opportunities and Needs Sub-Committee of the PA Agriculture Hemp Steering Committee and is a member of the Chester County Agriculture Advisory Committee Task Force. We offer five hemp plastic alternatives which are available now. That’s great. Greg Wilson:Kentucky is known for horses, because if you get a little bit farther west and a little bit farther north, then you’re in better soil and better climate for growing your row crops. Matt Baum:That’s the soy. In this episode, Matt has a conversation with Gregory Wilson, founder of Fibonacci LLC which manufactures HempWood. Yeah. Where’s it start? And that actually comes from the soy burning. The eco-friendly characteristics of hemp could be the optimal solution to … [crosstalk 00:36:49] And it’s pulling all the carbon out. Sunday before I made a cabinet for my wife, and we put it up in the bathroom. So if you see hemp wood being manufactured anywhere in the world, it’s us. Greg Wilson:Yeah, absolutely. You can get 16 to 20 tons per truckload. Watch the “Stories from the Streams” series shows how Stroud Center scientists, educators, and private citizens are working every day to maintain the quality of the water that sustains 15 million people living in the Delaware River Watershed. So you couldn’t move it around. And we actually circulate it. Greg Wilson:Yeah. And now back to my conversation with Gregory. Greg Wilson:Yeah. The Blue Forest Farms What’s Your Number system comes from processing 6 different unique oils. So if it gets picked up, like a snail shell, like that, then you just reverse that to be able to unroll it. Hemp plastics are an ideal alternative considering it is a biodegradable plastic that only takes about three to six months to break down. They talk about the challenges of creating not only it but inventing the tools needed to manufacture HempWood, its benefits and comparison to other popular woods, and the challenges of launching a hemp start-up during the Covid pandemic. And actually, the powers behind the scene, kind of the wizard from the Wizard of Oz, is Dario Dumont. Because our big thing is, if somebody buys hemp wood from us and make something out of it, the trademark of, “Hey, this is a HempWood product,” goes right along with it. Greg Wilson:… [crosstalk 00:22:41] out west with one of the Oregon schools. I was like, “What the hell is that?” And then all of a sudden we found out that was from the soy. They even have a very cool numbering system that helps you figure out what’s your number based on their six different CBD oils. That is a monstrosity. And then the glycol goes back to the bio burner to get reheated and sent back out. 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